Together with the other two trees, she was taken down the lovely hillside. They hung a rope swing from one of his big branches. The Gardner searched the hillside and found a safe place for two little trees. On the surface, “The Esteemed Trees” tells the struggles of an ornery tree and a happy tree growing together on a hillside. As the morning light chased away the darkness, a young Gardner sat on a quiet hillside gazing down into a valley. The Tale of Two Trees On Friday 8 th November an unexpected little smoke appeared in the bottom of Terania Creek Basin, somewhere near the Circle Pool. The second seed also began to push his roots into the ground. God has commanded us to enjoy his good gifts, and each of us choose whether to receive those good gifts from God or define good and bad for ourselves. People are trees. Tim: I'm pretty sure it's going to be the tree of life. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowing. Text: Genesis 2: 9; Revelation 22: 1-4 (esp. So what's all the trees? I won’t have enough to make the Gardner proud,” he worried. In February 2011, two different tree pits were planted at the same time with the same tree species (Chinese Elm) at the Ashfield Civic Centre in Sydney, Australia. And that meaning is introduced in Genesis 1 and 2 where trees are a real focal point. Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. “Look at all the people in the valley. Jon: And then they play that forward. For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate, and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate. But it's with all the trees and it's part of just nourishment. Remember, just like wisdom, you can be wise to terrible ends, you can be wise towards good ends. This was, in large part, because the Lord was enabling me to understand in all the Scriptures the redemptive-historical nature of trees from the Garden to the cross to the new creation. “Wow” admired the second tree. This isn't a warning. God wants to shelter humans from good and bad until they can learn wisdom from him. So that's all the way back to one of our first videos. So we're back to Adam and Eve as royal priests. Jon: A different story being that God's kind of judgment against humans for disobeying was that He would kill them. I think that will be a pretty, sweet smelling necklace.”. Vs. 16, "Yahweh God commanded - first divine command - commanded the human saying, 'From all the trees of the garden you may eat eat (in Hebrew).'". Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked. God doesn't want to keep humans in an infant state. Jon: So tricking ourselves into thinking we can know good from wrong but in reality we are unable to. I first heard about The Bible Project as a YouTube recommendation, and then I hooked on it. 1 - The Two Men. “Now, everyone will pick my apples. And he said to the woman, “Indeed, has God said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?” The woman said to the serpent, “From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat; but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.’” The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die! He has knowledge of God's words, claims the privileged knowledge of God's divine council decisions. Tim: If I was like Abraham in that one moment when he did nothing but looked up in the sky and just trusted God, that was when he passed the test. Her eyes sparkled. So these two trees are intertwined. Jon: And when you frame it that way, my thought isn't "why did God do that?" By the evening it was a glow heading up the western side. And that's true in this narrative. The tree of life resonates and contrasts with ancient imagery by showing life as a gift that God wants to give humanity. In combination, there's only one other group of people in the Hebrew Bible given that job description, and it's the Levites who work in the temple precincts. Jon: People are trees - to be a metaphor? That choice is done almost unconsciously. And let's say that Adam and Eve responded correctly. But then you get into situations and you have some choices to make. How to Read the Bible: The Books of Solomon, The Tale of Two Trees Because remember, when they're exiled in vs. 22, God says, "No, they become like us Elohim knowing good and bad. The reward is given before the humans have done anything. I want to be wise. Here we go. This story is meant to illuminate the human condition while also explaining the choice before each of us. We’ll back to health. Beneath the touching story, however, we see how self-esteem dictates happiness. 1hr 8m, –  Jon: A test is like, I need you to prove your character. That's the thing that will kill me and hurt myself and others. Tim: It's very important for especially modern misunderstandings of this story. And then all of a sudden, I'm eating from the wrong tree and it seems like the right thing to do. What I want to focus on is the tree moment which we focused on that too on another conversation. FOR // Holding on to Hope Jon: Today's show is produced by Dan Gummel. And then we're such good friends, we start a small business together because our ideas work well and we love it. Jon: Right. The tree of life and the tree of knowing good or bad, how you relate to one determines how you relate to the other. Can a partridge live in a pear, even if it's not in a tree? A Tale of Two Trees. In addition, we see how common parenting techniques affect the self-esteem of our children. I think that's what the story is reaching at. Like we take that just naturally. Actually, don't quote me on that. And what actually happens is their eyes are open and they realize that they are vulnerable for each other. Tim: It creates a what-if possibility. Correct. 1hr 20m, –  Tim: No. This is very important. Sometimes, little worker bees would come and visit the trees. I don’t have time to play with you!”. He is living a live trying to please others to gain external praise and admiration, which he mistakenly thinks will bring him happiness. Respond to the test. We usually meet right here. The second tree, however, finds happiness from within, and demonstrates Dr. Branden’s requirements for true self-esteem. The first death in the Bible comes not from God but from a human who has taken the knowledge of good and bad in their own hands. It seems like that would be a good thing for me to have. Jon: Thank you for listening to this episode of The Bible Project podcast with us. So that's a way they're different from the other human in history and in the story. The villagers are sure lucky to enjoy your wonderful gifts.”. Jon: Instead of a warning that there is a reality which the humans can live which will lead to death. Consider the Palm tree with its straightness, the grape tree or vine with its abundant and luscious harvest, or the olive tree, which is a tree of light and anointing. And then to C. S. Lewis' thing of eating mud pies while you sit at the foot of a table full of cherry pies and apple pies and you think it's good, and you love it. Jon: The pattern is being in front of a tree, and having a choice of how you're going to find wisdom. It is a famous children’s book that can be read as a basic primer about human beings in relationship to nature. Tim shares that the Hebrew idea of testing is about exposing the truth not about proving yourself. Tim: Ah, the meaning of trees in the Bible in general. Tim: I don't know what actually happened. And now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever.”. Avoid it. Jon: And I think what's good about the way you talk about that is that it's not like, "Oh, man, am I going to eat of that tree or not?" Title: The Tale of Two Trees. I'm going to take that power and authority on myself for myself.". Tim: It's an image of the human condition. A lifestyle of disobedience to God’s eternal Word is a life of darkness and shame. In part two (14:00-23:00), Tim and Jon talk about the intertwined relationship of the two trees in the garden. Tim: Yeah. Good job. Jon: But If we put that then construct onto this narrative of Genesis 2 and 3, I don't know, it feels strange to have a test. God plants a bunch of trees. Despite being nearly identical, their paths follow different paths. There's actually a long-standing conversation going back to second temple Jewish literature about if Adam and Eve blew a chance to repent. The sixth pillar, the art of personal integrity, is evident throughout the story but particularly when the second tree is struck by lightning. Who knows. So to know is to experience life versus death. The tree of good and bad is a warning about forfeiting what God has already given. This is going to be illuminated by what happens especially at Mount Sinai, where you're going to have Israel at another Eden high place where their representative Moses is meeting God up on the top by a tree, the bush... “It’s like a lullaby,” he thought. People are like trees. She should bring me a drink.”, “It is hot and I am very thirsty,” the second tree thought, “I will push my roots deeper into the ground and find water.”. 52m, –  37m, –  And they have a particular kind of symbolism and meaning in the biblical story. Romans 6:23 (NLT) 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of … So just don't do that. It's the tale of two trees. Tim: Yeah. Tim: It is not a god, but it is a gift of God. The second tree looked across the valley. Tim: Is it? And then all sudden... Tim: Yeah, that's right. Sign in to add your private notes…. Jon: Yeah, tie video will be about the tree by tree of life. I'm going to know what is good and what is bad, what kind of things will build up and what kind of things will destroy. The first tree was scared. That's weird to realize. Jon: At this point in the narrative you're kind of like, "Uh." It's such a rich, multi-layered, little poetic line. No. Will they obey? Facebook. And so it's about living in connection with God. Two trees search for happiness. Find free videos study notes, podcasts and more at The second tree burst into flames. Tim: Wisdom wisdom. Now Watching: The Tale of Two Trees; Series: Not Forsaken; Messages. It's not like, "Oh, man, I would really want to eat of the tree of life, but I think I want to hate my friend. Tim: Arum. You're ruling the world together. Which is every other time it appears in the Hebrew Bible it's a positive. Why do you ask questions? Or human kings can be depicted as sacred trees. After many years, the Gardner returned. A light breeze blew across the valley and over the hillside. Welcome, especially to the story of Moses. He felt a sense of peace and comfort in the fact that he could actually help and give of himself to the world. "I will now sail the roaring oceans," thought the second tree. “You sure work hard,” he told them. And we talked about how picture of a tree of life was a very common image for the imaginative palette, as you will, of the ancient Near East neighboring stories. Copy. I think the reason why it's so ambiguous, this biblical narrative in general, these ambiguities are there to make you ponder and reread and then go read the rest of the Bible, and then bring what you learned back to bear on those ambiguities and so on. A Tale of Two Trees Trees are marvelous things, and they also teach us a great deal. At the end of the story, see information regarding the self-esteem and parenting philosophies used in the story. He says it will kill you. That's always the choice. The two trees represent two … Tim: Because the author can assume that a cultural understanding that, okay, in biblical faith that God isn't a tree, but the tree is a place where humans meet God because it's in the middle of the garden. There's wilderness and nothing cultivated, and God plants the garden. “The Gardner must see them.” He lifted his branches high keeping them from the villagers. He wants them to rule. He's just doing his thing. The only decorations the bedraggled tree has are a tangled mass of colored lights, a single ornament which bears a striking resemblance to those in Kimball, a soiled shower towel wrapped around its base, and a crumpled beer can for a star. Tree of Life The serpent inverts the words of God, and the woman sees, desires, and takes from the tree of knowing good and bad. In brief, we have had many, many conversations about the meaning of the tree. “What a juicy apple! Both trees, fulfilled by the Gardner’s visit, lived many happy years on the grassy hillside. The tale of two trees tells us something profound about the human condition and the choice There are two trees in the garden, and humanity is presented with a choice: trust God and enjoy his good gifts or take the knowledge of good and bad for themselves. Trees that are good for food, trees that are good to look at, and one beautiful cosmic tree at the center of the garden that represents God's own life - the tree of life. So the humans, they still are kind of childish in their ability to know good from bad. Genesis 3:1-6 They came from an apple tree that had given fruit and cool shade to her family for many years. There are two trees in the garden, and humanity is presented with a choice: trust God and enjoy his good gifts or take the knowledge of good and bad for themselves. “I have a headache,” groaned the second tree. That's the dynamic at work. I'm from Valdivia, Chile. But then another layer of it is, we've talked about, I think, in a different series, I think in our most recent wisdom series, where it is a state of moral infancy. Tim: That's the tree of life imagery. Jon: So okay, so you walk away from Genesis 3 thinking, "Okay, this makes sense of the human condition.". Tim: The tree of life was in the middle of the garden and the tree of knowing good and bad. As the morning light chased away the darkness, a young Gardner sat on a quiet hillside gazing down into a valley. So I kind of can understand that. Think of these two trees as being next to each other in the garden. Jon: Where they're supposed to go and eat of the tree of life. “That pesky wind will blow away all my blossoms!” He gripped the tiny flowers. Every good thing in my life is also matched by an equal or greater number of opportunities to ruin it by taking my own knowledge of good and bad. The farms and fields looked like a blanket of colored patches. That's a good thing. The second one tumbled out of the pouch into the Gardner’s hand. –  They both knew that blossoms grow into apples! It does not say that. 2) Key Verse(s): Revelation 22: 2 There is a tree of life in the city (Rev. This is a story about two photogenic giants that inspired my photographic journey. It's a paraphrase, but that's the idea. Jon: But is there some sort of then conversation you said about there was a chance for repentance? With a deafening crack, it struck the second tree. It's a gift. The Bible introduces us to a garden filled with trees on a high place. The second tree, however, is able to experience the wind in a comforting and soothing way. And so what is moral maturity? He smiled. The first tree arrived at a carpenter's shop. The first command doesn’t place the tree of life off limits. We can eat from the fruit the trees of the garden but there's one tree in the middle where God said, 'Don't eat from it or touch it or you will die die. After God in humans, they're the most talked about organic living thing. I desire that, and that will give it to me. The test before the tree of good and bad becomes a template for later tests that key characters will face in the biblical story. It's time for a walk. Israel’s obedience to the covenant with God is compared to life and death: “So choose life” (Deuteronomy 30:19). They will admire my apples and the Gardner will be proud.”. Lots of life around trees. Genesis 2:15-17 The second layer is that when the command about the trees is given in Genesis 2, we're going to look at it here in Genesis 2:15 and 17, the wordings important here, it says, "Then Yahweh God took the human, put him into the garden of Eden to work it and to keep it." There's trees that are good to look at, there's trees for food, and then in the middle of the garden... Tim: ...with one river flowing out and then flowing down to become the four rivers that water all the corners of the earth so to speak. It's the tale of two trees so to speak. And used it for making the point that the use of the word "arum" is not negative. He played with the kids all afternoon. Humans can spread and create more life for the creatures around them. We're a crowdfunded nonprofit in Portland, Oregon. Tim: Oh, right, right, right. So what nobody does in the story is say "I did it and I'm sorry." “A Tale of Two Trees” (Genesis 2:8-9, 15-17; 3:1-24) This is “A Tale of Two Trees.” Oh, there were a whole bunch of other trees besides, lots of them, but this story will focus on just two. Jon: It is, yeah. And you can find out all that we're up to on our website, So the ancient Near East is what that refers to. We have a tree and hedgerow planting programme running at the Sanctuary. Tree of Life Q+R #1. Tim: Except God made a promise that a seed, back to tree and plant imagery, a seed would come from the woman who would undo all that has just been done in the garden. 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